Meme time!

[dagronrat]

Since my room is now tidy enough to really see the floor (ignore the desk, that's tomorrow's job) I'm going to indulge in Meme Time!

Snagged from thepinkangel ♥
Give me any fandom* we have in common and I'll tell you:
1. The first character I first fell in love with.
2. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now.
3. The character everyone else loves that I don't.
4. The character I love that everyone else hates.
5. The character I used to love but don't any longer.
6. The character I would shag anytime find hot.
7. The character I'd want to be like.
8. The character I'd slap.
9. A pairing that I love.
10. A pairing that I despise.

*Make that any series you think I know. 2 fandoms ain't much to play on.

In other news? My painting wasn't accepted to the Aberdeen Artists' exhibition thing. XD;
Not really a surprise there. 4 of my classmates' have been though. ♥♥♥

Comments

[randomaicoholic.livejournal.com]

Well, for the Kazuha's issue, it seemed that everyone had given her/his point of view and that the only thing to do is to agree that we desagree.
We said that Kazuha is nothing but a stereotype, you said she was not supposed to be more, we said that we want to see Kazuha beeing fleshed, you said that she don't need to be. Everyone had his/her point of views, it's fine.
So, nothing to add about this subject for me.

But, it's harder for me to be indifferent to your words about Haibara.
Fair enough after all, you have used your answer's right with my comment about Kazuha, I would made the same thing, right now.XD

"BUT, I don't like her because she's so coward, she doesn't assume anything (that's just my feeling) and in fact, I hate her personnality. I just want to slap her when she's talking."

Well, obviously, we're not giving the same meaning to the word coward.
Someone who feels fear is not a coward when he had reasons to be scared.
Haibara is scared to be catched and killed by the orgu?Well, yes, and it would be hard for her to act in a different way.
She had spent her entire life in the orgu, know how they act with the people who could threatens her, know how much they're powerfull(Honestly, they've destroyed an entire laboratory without a second thought after her escape to be sure to don't let a hints behind us, Pisco was one of the richest business man in Japan and Gin said clearly it was the orgu which was the origine of his wealth, and let's not talk about the fact the orgu is, at least, fifty years old...).
Her only protection is the fact that they ignore she is a child, but since experimentation with apotoxin would continue, she couldn't know how long this ignorance will stay. And her colleague know how she looked like a child anyway.

So, what could be the more clever move to made? Fighting the orgu alone like Conan is trying to do?
Trying to destroy a tank with your bare hand is not a courage's proof, it's just a proof of stupidity, and that's what Conan was doing in fighting the orgu.
He is just a teenager, in a child state, for what we know about him, he had only catched occassional criminal until now and it's not the same thing at all that fighting a criminal syndicate, he haven't asked help to person who have the means and the knowledge to fight organized crime(he had refused Yusaku's help), and he's just collecting information alone, so how could it's possible for him to imagine that he could fight the orgu? I would ever said that simply imagine that he could protect Haibara from her colleagues is an overestimation of her competence.

For someone who had a bit a commun sense, Conan don't have a single chance against the orgu, so it's normal for Haibara to restrain him in his action and to trying to convince him to don't fight them anymore.
And let's not talk about Shinichi's attitude in vol 26...

Conan destroying the orgu alone, or with Maigret and Agasa's help?The chance it could snow in hell are higher.
Conan helping the FBI to destroy the orgu?It's more believable, but before vol 42/43, Conan and Ai are ignoring that the FBI knows the existence of the orgu and is searching them in Japan.
So, before vol 42, which views are the more clever?Conan's view or Haibara's view? I don't need to explain my opinion about this matter, I think.

Beeing overconfident and unrealistic=/=courage, beeing realistic=/=beeing a coward.

And even if she's scared, Ai is trying to get over her fear(in vol 24, she chose to go in this hotel with Conan with her won mind).

[randomaicoholic.livejournal.com]

She's don't assuming anything? What are you talking about, I don't understood.
When Conan is accusing her to be the creator of a poison, she said she had not created it freely? Well, she is saying a simple fact since she didn't have chose to beeing a part of the syndicate but was born inside. And with this syndicate's method, refusing to collaborate with them would have made them killed her and her sister(who was innocent and her only family).If she would have refused, another scientist would have done it(with org's means, they would have found someone), so I don't think we could trully said that she had a choice...
Yes, she have the possibility to refuse, but honestly, in the same situation, I don't think that a lots of people would have done that, Shinichi implied.
Conan is saying that he could not understood a murderer? She said it she was not a murderer by pleasure and don't insist after, with Conan's behaviour, it was clear for her that she would not convince him so she said a very simple answer. In my opinion, it's not the same thing that refusing to assume her sins.

Plus, when she is on the edge to beeing killed in vol 24, what she is trying to do? She's said to Kudo all the things that she could remember about her poison in the hope it would help Agasa to create an antidote.
She have nothing to gain in acting like that, she could have begged Kudo to save her or said to him to fled but instead of that, she is trying to use her last chance to repair her error in helping he victim.
If it's not a way to assume her act, I don't know what it could be.

Vol 26? She's giving temporary antidote to Kudo to help him with his situation with Ran, and she had stayed discretly near him to help him if the antidote was not working(and it's what have finally happens). If it's not a way to assume her act and the risk that her antidote couldn't work, I don't know what it could be.

The vol 42? Did I need to talk about the way she acts in vol 42?No, I don't think since I don't think it's possible to don't see that she's assuming her crimes and her errors in this volume. If I remember correctly, she even thought that Kudo don't have to sacrifice himself for her since he was not responsible.

The boss's mail? Well, before to know who is the boss, it would be hard to said if Haibara is making a good choice in restraining Conan to use this mail adress.
But I will give my own opinion about this matter.
It's stated several times in the manga, the organisation is hiding her existence to the world, they don't hesitate to kills people and to destroy their infrastucture to keep this secret. So, the chance that Conan could find a direct link between the boss and the orguanisation? I don't think there is many, if our detective had just a mail adress in his pocket.
A mail adress he had found because he believes to have hear the first notes of an childish song when Vermouth was mailing her boss? Yeah, definitly a proof which could put someone in jail...
Using the mail to create a trapp for the boss? Yes, and how? In trying to convince him/her that it's one of her/his operatives who had send a mail?It would be very easy for the boss to know if it was trully one of his/her operative who had send it a mail. He/she had just to send a mail to this operative.The chance that the trapp could be discovered are too high to uses it in my opinion. So, Haibara choice seemed the more clever for me.

In conclusion, no, it's hard for me to picture Ai like a coward or someone who is refusing to assuming her acts.
Sorry for the Too Long;Don't Read, but we're all talkative when it concerns our favorite characters.^__^;
But then, it's just my opinion, everyone is free to desagree.

[silmelin.livejournal.com]

Desolee mais je reponds en francais car le message precedent a bf nightinghale m'a pris beaucoup de temps. Je n'ai pas le courage de repondre en anglais aujourd'hui.

Je m'excuse mais je ne suis pas interessee par un debat sur le temperament de Haibara. J'ai deja eu ce genre de discussion plus d'une fois avec d'autres personnes et comme je l'ai dis meme si je reconnais ses qualites et son role important dans l'histoire, rien ne va a l'encontre du fait que je la deteste. Je n'ai rien a vous prouver: le fait que je la ressente comme une lache, une couarde est une impression personnelle. Je n'ai rien a vous prouver et je sais que la plupart des gens l'apprecie. C'est bien. A vrai dire J'avais jsute pris l'expemple de Ai pour illustrer mes propos car justement la plupart des gens l'apprecient. Je ne cherchais pas a lancer de nouveau debat.

Je n'ai rien d'autre a ajouter sur ce sujet.

[randomaicoholic.livejournal.com]

Non, effectivement, tu n'as rien à prouver et tu n'as pas à te justifier ou non sur ce que tu pense d'Haibara.

Comme j'ai dit, pour moi,le but de ce genre de discussions n'est pas de convertir ou de convaincre quelqu'un qui a une opinion différente de la mienne, juste d'essayer de comprendre d'autres perspectives que la mienne et de voir les choses sous un angle que je n'adopterais pas par moi même, c'est tout.
Après si j'ai donné l'impression de vouloir t'imposer mes opinions, ou que je te suis paru agressif dans ma démarche, je m'en excuse, ce n'était pas mon intention.

Et je comprends parfaitement que tu n'aie pas specialement envie de débattre, surtout si tu as déjà abordé le sujet de nombreuses fois avec d'autres personnes au point qu'il n'offre plus rien d'interessant pour toi. Après tout, je réagis moi-même de cette manière avec certains sujets sur lesquels j'ai discuté trop souvent et sur lequel j'ai fini par me faire mon opinion.