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From the Detective Conan 80+ Super Digest book (I think)
"Q77 : Quel genre de femme aiment Shuichi et Amuro ?
A: Shuichi aime les femmes qui ne crient pas et sont silencieuses. Amuro aime celles qui sont bavardes et spéciales."
Translation:
Question 77: What kind of women for Shuichi and Amuro like?
Answer: Shuichi likes woman that don't cry and are quiet. Amuro likes those that are chatty and special.

[livejournal.com profile] aritzen this made me think of Red & Black. :D

EDIT: WAIT. EISUKE IS EXPECTED TO COME BACK?

Date: 2015-04-30 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fs-playground.livejournal.com
Sounds very much like a Shuichi-Sherry and Amuro-Sera ending to me. I only wonder why Shuichi likes quiet women while both Akemi and Jodie seem rather chatty.

Date: 2015-05-01 10:41 am (UTC)
ext_28232: (AkeDaiHo)
From: [identity profile] dagronrat.livejournal.com
I hiiiighly doubt Eisuke-Ran ending will ever be on the cards. BUT I CAN HOPE.
Well spotted. XD Although I wouldn't call Akemi chatty... Chirpy, certainly. :D (And as SN pointed out, translation can be a bit off.)

Amuro-Sera could most certainly be interesting. Shuichi-Sherry... less so. Brrr.

Date: 2015-05-01 11:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fs-playground.livejournal.com
Shuu-Sherry can be easily pulled off if Gosho tweaks everything a bit and shows us that he actually approached Akemi just to meet Sherry and that it was only guilt, not love, which he felt for Akemi. He never really said that he loved her, so Gosho can easily turn it into a: "Sorry I used your sister to meet you and then I fell in love with you" romance. It would be dark enough to be interesting.

On the other hand, I don't really like to see the two serious and dark people together. They really need someone to balance them out.
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Date: 2015-05-01 05:48 pm (UTC)
ext_28232: (bright eyes)
From: [identity profile] dagronrat.livejournal.com
... Dammit, he's my age.

Date: 2015-05-02 09:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randomaicoholic.livejournal.com
I'm older that some of Gosho's adults... OMG...Y-Y

Date: 2015-05-01 02:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juneaddams.livejournal.com
I have been mulling over who I want Haibara / Shiho to end up with. My ideal otp: Haibara / Success, where she comes up with an invention that is so awesome and game-changing (and benefits humanity) that her and Agasa have enough $$ to fund their own mad scientist lab startup as soon as they're done touring the world.

But I digress.

The only issue I have w/ Shuichi / Sherry is that he is her sister's ex????? Baggage. So much baggage. If she would end up with someone I'd rather it's with someone for whom she is the sun and moon and the ultimate. She deserves nothing less than the best.

Date: 2015-05-01 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fs-playground.livejournal.com
Hence my reply to Dag that Gosho can still pull it off my saying that Shuu only used Akemi (which led to her death) and that what he feels for her is guilt, not love. That way it would be still a lot of baggage but would have a sort of bitter-sweet dramaesque edge to it. Otherwise it would be just two gloomy people consoling each other over the death of a loved one (which can happen in real life but isn't a satisfying ending for the story).

Date: 2015-05-01 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juneaddams.livejournal.com
Their personality types are also so similar that I have trouble seeing it work sob. It's gloom x gloom. Honestly I thought Haibara needed someone who could snap her out of her depressing thoughts and from time to time draw out her sillier side. I'm not saying she has to be with an eternal optimist but a little bit of contrast would be nice.
Edited Date: 2015-05-01 03:26 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-05-01 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fs-playground.livejournal.com
Yep, same here. Okiya seems a lot lighter than Shuu, though, so that I wonder whether Akai is really that gloomy or whether it was just his guilt over Akemi's death. He is still such a sketchy character that a skilled writer can twist him into someone who matches Ai. I seriously doubt it in the Dc canon, though, so I hope she will stay solo. Even Higo is a better choice. XD

Date: 2015-05-01 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juneaddams.livejournal.com
Higo is definitely the better choice, lol.

Date: 2015-05-01 04:45 pm (UTC)
ext_28232: (Meep!)
From: [identity profile] dagronrat.livejournal.com
'Cause Dope is not serious at all. ;D

Sometimes I wonder if Shuu would be very different in a not!showdown situation. He already seems a lot more chilled as Okiya - sort of doting big brother vibe that'd probably let Shiho rant/get things off her chest easily... He's cautious enough that she won't get annoyed at him for recklessness but devious enough to trick her into doing things she might not otherwise want to try.
Can you tell I'm kind of dissappointed Okiya wasn't his own person?
(Edit: dammit I should read all the comments before replying. :x /just parroted FS)
Edited Date: 2015-05-01 05:12 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-05-02 04:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juneaddams.livejournal.com
Lol I think Dope is not a good choice for her, at this point.

Basically, my criteria for Haibara's Future S.O. (if she's inclined to take any), goes like this:
1. Is committed to being in a team with her. (That means sharing secrets, valuing her opinions, trusting her abilities, doesn't leave her in the dark, etc)
2. Has enough sense of humour / gooofiness / optimism to pull her off those BO flashbacks / memories / bouts of self-hatred
3. Accepts her good and bad side (including her past) unconditionally.
4. Has a set of strengths and weaknesses that well complement hers.
5. Think the sun and the moon of her. She's no one's consolation prize.

While the Dope ticks the boxes (more or less, with some caveats) on item 2 (sorta), 3 (after a while) and 4 (despite his Stu-ness), he completely fails on 1 and 5, so he's out of my list). But I have to admit that old C/A interactions helped me draft out the criteria above, sob. If this can't be met, I'd rather she stay solo by the end of her series, so fans can imagine her meeting someone special later on.

Date: 2015-05-02 04:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juneaddams.livejournal.com
Also yeah I thought Okiya /can/ work if he's actually...you know...a real personality. But maybe it's a hint that real Shuu is more than Man Brooding with Cigarette.

Date: 2015-05-02 09:10 am (UTC)
ext_28232: (Kickass)
From: [identity profile] dagronrat.livejournal.com
Cue: AU where Okiya is his own man! :D

And now I'm reminiscing back to the days where Araide was a legitimate option, hum.

Date: 2015-05-02 09:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randomaicoholic.livejournal.com
That's...kind of scary, this clinical list of conditions to match, yunno... XD;

Even if I could follow you, a bit... Except maybe for the last one...
I dunno, i've discovered a new kink of mine, pairing a character witha burning passion with a fellow feeling nothin' but a sweet and warm friendship (with nice benefice) for the other half... Ah, I should blame my new muse, Akako sama and my current OTP Akakoxeveryone else in the MK quatuor... XD
Or maybe it's the allergy to soulmates and perfect love that Gosho had put inside me after this parody of a bad shoujo manga Under a mystery skin... (Please, I want flawed and adult Relationship, people ending together whithout being OMG!destined to be together, or so good together that it's nearly fate) I dunno...>_>.

Oh well, not that I care much about DC Canon, now... Sometimes I wonder if I would read it again, someday... The kind of questions that I doesn't ponders about with fandom...

I don't know if I want to see Ai with someone at the end... If Gosho is perfect at ONE thing, it's to destroy every couple once he had put a CANON tag on them...
(Kaito's parents, Shinichi's one, and eventually AkemixShu... I think it's the only canon one I could still stand..)
Shu/OkiyaxAi, I would have said "Uhh why not?", several years ago, but... I'm scared to see the result... (shudders)
Nah, I prefer to see Ai showered with seet platonic love from Agasa, the DB, Ran and even the dope...

Date: 2015-05-02 09:14 am (UTC)
ext_28232: (Default)
From: [identity profile] dagronrat.livejournal.com
Agreed. ♥

Date: 2015-05-01 04:37 pm (UTC)
ext_28232: (Happy Ai)
From: [identity profile] dagronrat.livejournal.com
Shiho/Happiness is my ship. *cape-onionman stance*

Date: 2015-05-04 03:15 am (UTC)
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Date: 2015-05-01 10:47 am (UTC)
ext_28232: (OTP)
From: [identity profile] dagronrat.livejournal.com
Indeed! :D

So yeah, the Amuro Sera ship is well it seems. >D

Date: 2015-05-01 11:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fs-playground.livejournal.com
Gosho must be tone-deaf so that he makes all the cool side characters tone-deaf as well...

Am I the only one who doesn't support Sera-Amuro? I prefer Sera-Ran...

Date: 2015-05-01 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juneaddams.livejournal.com
I prefer Se/Ran too. She is her type and all, heh. They are so in synch and make a great team whenever the situation calls for it. Sera is Ran's Heiji, basically.

Alas, Gosho.

Date: 2015-05-01 05:18 pm (UTC)
ext_28232: (ei-ran)
From: [identity profile] dagronrat.livejournal.com
I love SeRan but it gets in the way of EisuRan! I've learnt to enjoy SerAmuro. :D

Date: 2015-05-01 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juneaddams.livejournal.com
"Shuichi likes woman that don't cry and are quiet"

I know he / they probably didn't mean it to sound like that but it reeks of the 'ladies must be subservient / seen and not heard' nonsense lmao. We don't get enough of Akemi to know her personality but definitely the first thing that came to my mind was 'this is why Jodie and him isn't working out.' Jodie is probably way too vocal and assertive and perky for Mr Brooding with Cigarette.

Aw Amuro. That does sound like Sera.

Wasn't there a bunch of theories about Eisuke being related to the Akai Dorama Dynasty? It's the cat's eye.

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